Legislature(2019 - 2020)BUTROVICH 205

02/26/2020 03:30 PM Senate RESOURCES

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03:31:04 PM Start
03:31:33 PM Confirmation Hearing(s)
03:55:21 PM Adjourn
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+ Consideration of Governor's Appointees: TELECONFERENCED
Jeremy Price - AOGCC
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**Streamed live on AKL.tv**
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
              SENATE RESOURCES STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                       February 26, 2020                                                                                        
                           3:31 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Peter Micciche, Chair                                                                                                   
Senator John Coghill, Vice Chair                                                                                                
Senator Click Bishop                                                                                                            
Senator Cathy Giessel                                                                                                           
Senator Joshua Revak                                                                                                            
Senator Jesse Kiehl                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Scott Kawasaki                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CONFIRMATION HEARING(S)                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission                                                                                    
Jeremy Price - Anchorage                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATION ADVANCED                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
No previous action to record                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
JEREMY PRICE, Appointee                                                                                                         
Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission                                                                                      
Department of Commerce, Community, and Economic Development                                                                     
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified as appointee to the Alaska Oil and                                                              
Gas Conservation Commission.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DAN SEAMOUNT, Geologic Commissioner                                                                                             
Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission                                                                                      
Department of Commerce, Community, and Economic Development                                                                     
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT:   Testified  in   support  of   Mr.  Price's                                                             
appointment.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:31:04 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  PETER  MICCICHE  called   the  Senate  Resources  Standing                                                             
Committee meeting  to order at 3:31  p.m. Present at the  call to                                                               
order were  Senators Bishop, Giessel, Coghill,  Revak, Kiehl, and                                                               
Chair Micciche.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
^CONFIRMATION HEARING(S)                                                                                                        
                    CONFIRMATION HEARING(S):                                                                                
           Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
3:31:33 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MICCICHE  announced that the  only order of  business would                                                               
be consideration  of the governor's  appointee to the  Alaska Oil                                                               
and Gas Conservation Commission (AOGCC), Mr. Jeremy Price.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
He asked  Mr. Price  to make an  opening statement  regarding his                                                               
qualifications  and  interest  in  serving  Alaska  as  an  AOGCC                                                               
commissioner.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:31:51 PM                                                                                                                    
JEREMY  PRICE,   Appointee,  Alaska  Oil  and   Gas  Conservation                                                               
Commission,  Alaska   Department  of  Commerce,   Community,  and                                                               
Economic  Development,  Anchorage,  Alaska,  stated  that  he  is                                                               
honored by his appointment, a  role that he takes very seriously.                                                               
He said working with the  experienced and dedicated professionals                                                               
at AOGCC has been humbling.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
He detailed that  he is an Alaskan, born in  Fairbanks and raised                                                               
in  Salcha.  He  said  he  grew up  working  in  a  family  owned                                                               
electrical construction  company and  learned early  the benefits                                                               
of hard work.  He said he developed an interest  in energy issues                                                               
at a young age.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
He related that  he moved to Washington, D.C. in  2005 to work on                                                               
Capitol Hill after receiving a  bachelor's degree in business. He                                                               
devoted  his  time  and  attention   while  there  to  protecting                                                               
Alaskans'   interests    in   oil   and    gas,   infrastructure,                                                               
transportation, and appropriations for  roads, bridges, ports and                                                               
harbors. He  noted that he  worked with the Prince  William Sound                                                               
Regional   Citizens'   Advisory   Council   (PWSRCAC)   to   pass                                                               
legislation  to  improve the  safety  of  oil tankers  transiting                                                               
Prince William  Sound. He  added that  he worked  with regulators                                                               
from  various   federal  agencies   to  remove   the  unnecessary                                                               
roadblocks in the way of  responsibly developing Alaska's oil and                                                               
gas resources. He said he  believes that developing resources and                                                               
infrastructure  while  protecting  Alaska's environment  are  not                                                               
mutually exclusive objectives.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:33:27 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  PRICE  detailed  that  he  received  a  master's  degree  in                                                               
government from John  Hopkins University and wrote  his thesis on                                                               
conventional and renewable energy subsidies.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
He said he left the U.S. Senate  in 2013 for work at the American                                                               
Petroleum Institute  (API) where he handled  midstream and Alaska                                                               
upstream issues.  In 2014  he moved  back to  Alaska to  open the                                                               
state chapter of Americans for  Prosperity (AFP), an organization                                                               
that  advocates  for  removing   barriers  to  public  lands  and                                                               
resource development opportunities.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. PRICE explained that after  Governor Dunleavy was elected, he                                                               
was hired  as Deputy  Chief of  Staff where  he acted  as liaison                                                               
with agency commissioners.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
He said  since becoming public  commissioner and chair  of AOGCC,                                                               
his focus has been on  protecting underground freshwater sources,                                                               
owners'  rights  to recover  their  resource  share, and  greater                                                               
resource  recovery  through  waste  recovery  and  safe  drilling                                                               
practices.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:34:58 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  PRICE  stated  that  this  is a  critical  time  for  AOGCC.                                                               
Drilling  permit  work orders  increased  to  191  in 2019,  a  6                                                               
percent  increase  over  2018.  Each  drilling  application  goes                                                               
through  a rigorous  process  at  AOGCC. Experienced  geologists,                                                               
engineers,  and  inspectors  ensure  wells  are  properly  cased,                                                               
cemented,  and pressure  tested. AOGCC  identifies and  mitigates                                                               
potential drilling hazards by  ensuring proper blowout prevention                                                               
is in place with frequent testing and inspections.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
He said he would continue the  work of his AOGCC predecessors who                                                               
created the  gold standard for  regulatory processes.  He pointed                                                               
out  that Alaska  has  one of  the lowest  flaring  rates in  the                                                               
country  at 0.3  percent. He  added  that there  are no  recorded                                                               
instances of  underwater drinking  water contamination  from over                                                               
2,000  hydraulically fractured  wells since  1963. He  noted that                                                               
the recovery rate  oil throughout the world  averages 15 percent,                                                               
but  the oil  recovery rate  in Prudhoe  Bay is  50 percent  with                                                               
expectations to achieve 60 percent through 2040.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  PRICE explained  that  under  U.S. Environmental  Protection                                                               
Agency (EPA)  oversight, AOGCC  has successfully  administered an                                                               
underground  injection control  program for  more than  30 years.                                                               
EPA  commended AOGCC  in 2019  for  its good  work in  regulating                                                               
injection  wells. While  AOGCC has  achieved great  progress, the                                                               
commission has much work to do, he said.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
He said all  oil and gas producing states  grapple with countless                                                               
orphan  wells  from  years  of drilling  by  companies  who  went                                                               
bankrupt  without  undertaking  proper plugging  and  abandonment                                                               
procedures. The Alaska Division  of Legislative Audit recommended                                                               
in 1991 raising  bonds to a level that  more closely approximates                                                               
the average  cost to  properly plug  an abandoned  well. However,                                                               
the regulation  remained unchanged until 2019  when AOGCC updated                                                               
bonding   requirements  to   more   closely  reflect   bankruptcy                                                               
liabilities.  About  99  percent  of the  Alaska  operators  have                                                               
complied with the new bonding requirements.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  PRICE  pointed out  that  one  of  the tasks  that  Governor                                                               
Dunleavy  put into  place upon  taking office  was to  direct all                                                               
agencies  to   identify  and  repeal  outdated   and  unnecessary                                                               
regulations.  He reported  that in  January 2020,  AOGCC repealed                                                               
seven  outdated  regulations  and   will  continue  to  look  for                                                               
additional efficiencies.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:37:24 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  PRICE summarized  that since  leaving his  family electrical                                                               
construction  business  2005,  he  has  tried  to  represent  the                                                               
interests of Alaskans. He reiterated  that Alaska is his home and                                                               
hopes to  raise his family  in the state  as well. He  asked that                                                               
the committee  support his confirmation  to continue  serving the                                                               
state as AOGCC chairman.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BISHOP  asked why  he thought he  was qualified  and what                                                               
strength he brings to AOGCC.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  PRICE answered  that his  greatest  asset is  a strong  work                                                               
ethic. He  related that  since the first  day as  commissioner he                                                               
realized  he  had  a  lot  to  learn  because  his  oil  and  gas                                                               
experience  has  been  at  the   federal  policy  level.  He  got                                                               
textbooks from  the AOGCC engineers  and geologists and  has been                                                               
studying them  at night  to learn the  technical aspects.  It's a                                                               
new  experience but  one  he embraces.  He  reiterated that  work                                                               
ethic is his strongest asset.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:39:29 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  COGHILL asked  how his  responsibilities  as the  public                                                               
member  and as  chair interact  and  how he  sees the  commission                                                               
going forward under his leadership.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. PRICE  replied he  believes the public  member should  be the                                                               
member most attuned to protecting  Alaskans' interests in oil and                                                               
gas  development. He  said running  hearings as  chair and  doing                                                               
administrative  activities  allows  the geology  and  engineering                                                               
commissioners to delve into the  more technical aspects.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
He said  he expects the  commission's workload to  increase under                                                               
his  chairmanship.  Increased   activity  would  require  greater                                                               
diligence to identify  staffing or resource needs  when that time                                                               
comes.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:41:29 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL  asked if his  family contracting business  has any                                                               
clients who work in the oil and gas industry.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. PRICE answered no.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  KIEHL asked  why he  left the  governor's administration                                                               
for AOGCC.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.  PRICE   answered  that  he   had  no  plans  to   leave  the                                                               
administration, but  he has been  very interested in the  role of                                                               
AOGCC commissioner for  some time. He said he did  not expect the                                                               
position to open  any time soon, but he told  the governor of his                                                               
interest. The  move was  strictly based  on the  opportunity that                                                               
presented itself.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR KIEHL noted  the breadth of his  portfolio, including the                                                               
governor's office  and dealing with  various state  agency issues                                                               
that could  impact the oil  and gas  industry. He asked  what his                                                               
thought process was since AOGCC has a much narrower focus.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.  PRICE  answered  that  his  career  with  Congressman  Young                                                               
covered a  wide portfolio  that included  energy, infrastructure,                                                               
and  environment. However,  the  AOGCC position  will provide  an                                                               
opportunity to focus on a narrow  scope of issues that he is most                                                               
passionate about.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:43:49 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MICCICHE read the AOGCC mission statement as follows:                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     To  protect the  public's interest  in exploration  and                                                                    
     development   of  Alaska's   valuable  oil,   gas,  and                                                                    
     geothermal   resources  through   the  application   of                                                                    
     conservation  practices  designed   to  ensure  greater                                                                    
     ultimate  recovery   and  the  protection   of  health,                                                                    
     safety,  fresh  ground waters  and  the  rights of  all                                                                    
     owners to recover their share of the resource.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
He pointed out that Mr. Price was  with API for a couple of years                                                               
as Federal Relations  Manager. He remarked that  he was surprised                                                               
to see a letter of support  from PWSRCAC. He noted that Mr. Price                                                               
worked on  requiring dual  escort for tug  support and  asked for                                                               
further explanation.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
He referenced Mr. Price's professional  experience and letters of                                                               
support.  He remarked  that Mr.  Price could  not help  the "Koch                                                               
brothers"  thing,  but  the  support  letters  submitted  to  the                                                               
committee are  from people that  he respects and has  worked with                                                               
who are very concerned about responsible development.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. PRICE explained  that when PWSRCAC came to him  and others in                                                               
the  congressional delegation,  they  said  dual-escort tugs  for                                                               
tankers transiting  Prince William  Sound was  industry practice.                                                               
However, PWSRCAC  had concerns  that the  industry would  one day                                                               
say that one  tug was enough. Possible consideration  for one tug                                                               
was something  serious enough  for PWSRCAC to  ask for  help from                                                               
Congressman Young to secure federal legislation to require dual-                                                                
escort  tugs for  Prince William  Sound.  The legislation  passed                                                               
Congress and  signed into law  by President Obama.  He reiterated                                                               
that responsibly  developing Alaska's resources  while protecting                                                               
the environment are not mutually exclusive.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:46:12 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  MICCICHE  addressed Mr.  Price's  letter  of support  from                                                               
Senator  Murkowski  and  Congressman  Young. He  noted  that  the                                                               
letter  referenced  the  Colville  River  Bridge  and  asked  for                                                               
details on the project. He conceded  that Mr. Price does not have                                                               
decades of applicable experience  associated with AOGCC but noted                                                               
that he has done some work recognized in the letters of support.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  PRICE explained  that  ConocoPhillips  asked for  assistance                                                               
with  the EPA  regulations  regarding Section  404  in the  Clean                                                               
Water Act (CWA).  Section 404 regulates the  discharge of dredged                                                               
or fill materials  into waters. The U.S. Army  Corps of Engineers                                                               
(USACE) determined that a buried  pipeline would be less damaging                                                               
alternative to the  environment than a bridge. He  said he worked                                                               
hard on  the issue  with other individuals  at the  federal level                                                               
that eventually  led to  USACE agreeing  with the  Colville River                                                               
Bridge alternative.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
He said the bridge project is  an example of a common bureaucracy                                                               
occurrence where  federal agencies  do not understand  all facets                                                               
of an  issue. He  said he  facilitated the  role of  ensuring all                                                               
truths are on the table.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:48:37 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MICCICHE opened public testimony.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:49:10 PM                                                                                                                    
DAN  SEAMOUNT,   Geologic  Commissioner,   Alaska  Oil   and  Gas                                                               
Conservation   Commission,   Alaska   Department   of   Commerce,                                                               
Community,   and   Economic   Development,   Anchorage,   Alaska,                                                               
testified  in support  of Mr.  Price's  appointment. He  detailed                                                               
that he has  been commissioner for over 20 years  and worked with                                                               
12  to 16  commissioners  at AOGCC.  He said  Mr.  Price has  the                                                               
greatest potential  of any  commissioner he  has worked  with. He                                                               
noted that the legislature did  change the qualifications statute                                                               
for  the AOGCC  public member  where the  appointee must  have an                                                               
innate knowledge of the oil and gas industry.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR REVAK  asked if Mr.  Price's federal or  legal experience                                                               
will play any role in his appointment.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  SEAMOUNT  replied that  he  cannot  comment on  Mr.                                                               
Price's  experience in  Washington, D.C.,  but his  work for  API                                                               
involved oil and  gas. He noted that Mr. Price  puts in his hours                                                               
at AOGCC,  works late, works  weekends, and is serious  about his                                                               
job.  He said  Mr.  Price brings  a  lot to  the  table with  his                                                               
knowledge of regulations and statutes.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:52:02 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MICCICHE  said a  key requirement  is for  the three-person                                                               
commission to learn to work  together productively even when they                                                               
disagree.  He asked,  in the  short time  Mr. Price  has been  at                                                               
AOGCC, if he  had exhibited organizational skills  that can carry                                                               
forward.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  SEAMOUNT  answered  that they  work  together  very                                                               
well. He noted  that there was one point where  Mr. Price was not                                                               
in  total  agreement  with the  new  bonding  regulations.  After                                                               
further explanation and  after all the facts  were presented, Mr.                                                               
Price changed  his mind. He  shows flexibility so  the commission                                                               
can reach consensus.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:53:27 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  MICCICHE found  no one  else  who wished  to testify  [and                                                               
public testimony was closed.]                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  COGHILL moved  to  advance the  appointment  to a  joint                                                               
session for consideration:                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission                                                                                    
Jeremy Price - Anchorage                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MICCICHE asked if there were any objections.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GIESSEL  said  there  is  no  need  for  a  motion,  the                                                               
committee must simply sign the report.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COGHILL  said the committee  may advance  the appointment                                                               
either way.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:54:29 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  MICCICHE  found no  objection  and  reminded members  that                                                               
signing  the   report  regarding   appointments  to   boards  and                                                               
commissions in  no way reflects  individual members'  approval or                                                               
disapproval  of  the  appointees;   the  nominations  are  merely                                                               
forwarded to the full legislature for confirmation or rejection.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:55:21 PM                                                                                                                    
There being  no further  business to  come before  the committee,                                                               
Chair Micciche adjourned the  Senate Resources Standing Committee                                                               
meeting at 3:55 p.m.                                                                                                            

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SRES Oil and Gas Conservation Price #1.pdf SRES 2/26/2020 3:30:00 PM
Jeremy Price Confirmatin Hearing
JPrice - Written Testimony combined as of 02.25.2020.pdf SRES 2/26/2020 3:30:00 PM
Jeremy Price Confirmation